Another very controversial scoring from AIBA (International Boxing Association) that took place on August 11, 2012 at the 2012 …
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politics and crooked judges called the fight. anyone who watched it could clearly count out every meaningful hit and score it.
Don't forgot about the legend Bruce lee he was badass very quick his from China.
yeah because their spiritual people, look at their past kings and what have they done for their people over 1000 years, and look at how they faced western countries when they invaded and colonized all of South East Asia. We are a reflection of our kings. If your Chinese you need to learn to respect other Asian countries. If you call it Nationalism fine, we at least have culture but we never disrespect other countries. For you to say that you must be very insecure
I wanna see chinese people come to thailand and punch up on stage "THAI FIGHTER"
I kind of understand…but at the same time….I don't agree completely with what you said.
คนไทยรู้จักอะไร? คนไทยรู้จักเถียงกับคนอื่น คนไทยไม่เคยพยายามพัฒนาประเทศแต่มีเวลาด่าคนอื่น คนไทยเข้าข้างฝรั่ง คิดว่าด่าคนอื่นจะได้รู้สึกดี มองจีนพัฒนาได้เร็วตัวเองอิจฉา
It's a shame Thais can't be bothered to make Thailand great. Accepting criticism maybe a good start. All the 'Proud to be Thai' stuff is killing Thailand. Even Vietnam will beat Thailand soon.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Siam (Kingdom of Ayuthaya) was richer than UK, USA (old 13 states), China and Japan. In 250 years, Thais have done nothing to stay on top. Thailand has the best land in Asia, but still it is not powerful. What could it be?
Thais need to try harder. Thailand has better land than China, Japan, UK, Germany. It has not had a war for hundreds of years. Why is Thailand not bigger than USA? Thai people had all the chances to be a global power. Maybe in 1750, Thailand was richer than UK, Japan, China and USA. What happened?
Only China can save Thailand and Asia now. The western influence is so strong in Thailand. I wonder if Thais are really Thais. If Thais continue to be anti-Chinese they will lose everything.
Why should I get trouble in Thailand? Thais want money foreign money. They will not object to money. As long as you spend in Thailand, nobody really cares.
You are bitching around, not me.
It is funny why Thais do not object to US power? Very strange indeed. Is it because they have white skin? That is why you don't dare to say a thing?
No, there is no risk to getting my jaws broken. You can't reason with people, just want to use violence. Is this want you learned in Thailand?
I think I will last forever. I am only helping Thais.
There will be no troubles. Why do Thais avoid the truth? Do I have to tell you what you want to hear?
go to thailand and express your bullshit ,,, see how long you last
This is not fair. China maybe a big name in the world, but if you show power in wrong way, Thai people or another will dislike you. If you show power in the truth way everyone will praise you. Sorry for my eng. skill.
you think you are sooooo cool with a racist comment ??? grow some balls or the balls will hit your face
CHINESE THAI MAKES NO DIFF TO ME THEY BOTH EAT DOGS AND CATS AND LOOK ALIKE ANYWAY LOL
fucking AIBA
WTF!!! the point is Olympic boxing or politic? watch the video Cheat or not? Mental disorder.
If you have a chance, just come to Thailand. It might widen your point of view.
I think,I have to end this conversation right here. I have a lot of assignments waiting to send within next week. And know this dicssion is starting beating into my head, interfering my concentration. Although the starting is bad but in somecase you broaden my view point as well. So I have to say. It is pleassure to discss to you. I hope we can understand Thai better.
That is good, as far as I know at least we have the same regime and we have beloved King. Although I am doing master' degree in ustralia but many of my friend is doing master's degree in UK.
It is fine by me if you think like that. It is just the personal opinions. Somes is true, Some is partial true. Some is not. However, as I said again, every coutry all have positive side and negtive side. So what is the extreme negative thing in your country? Please broaden my knowledge.
And then what, what they say is about who is the winner, why do you have to care when you said that you don't care who was win? And about Nationalism that you said, is it a bad thing? And then again, please don't bring it to another topic like politic, not that in China there is no corruption. I don't want to insult China. However if you said that. I don't think you are senseible as well, when you can do something else, instead of criticising on someone like this. It is a similar case.
I didn't know about that. I have to accept, if it is true that it was a shame. However, as I said again, can you say that there are no corruption in your country? can you said there are no merderer in your country? It is just there is no perfect country. And human love to talk about "how bad" more than "how good". But it is OK, it just personal feeling, whether you happy with which side.
It is just a matter of pride, you just said it. Nationalism in Thailand taken to a high level. If there is any insult, I think Thais have done enough of it on the internet over this issue. Yes, I do things which increases my account balance. I wouldn't even argue with Thais if they were more sensible. After all is said and done, it has nothing to do with the average Thai. A small politician taking about 50 million baht is more painful than this match. Complain about that instead.
Even though very cheats but gold medals just less than USA. unashamed LOL
However, in my opinion, for the one who complained, this is the matter of pride and judgement. For someone, it is very important. You can agree or disagree, or you can even argue this matter with them I don't care as long as you don't insult my country. For me, it is like, if I ask you back, why do you have to insult my country, then starts criticising other countries? Is it just nationalism? Go and do something which increases your bank account balance. There has no sensible answer right?
This is a good question but I think, you ask the wrong person. I said many times that I don't care who is the winner. I didn't even see this whole match. As I said, the thing that I care is, you were insulting my country.
Ask yourself one question. Pick a scenario below and tell me how it will change your life, will any of these increase the amount of food on your table?
A, Zou wins, does not cheat
B, Zou wins and cheats
C, Kaew wins, does not cheat
D, Kaew wins and cheat
Why do Thais get so emotional over nothing, then starts criticising other countries? Is it just nationalism? Go and do something which increases your bank account balance. มีประโยชน์มีสาระกว่า
As I said, if you talk about the boxer or how they fighted. I will not care anything. But If you discriminate my country I have no choice but criticize you back. And because I love China. Because I had a precious time their and beacuse I have many Chinese friends that why so far I have not said any nagative thing of China. Just please don't make me do that. I don't want to criticize part of my own blood.
And then what? I think you missunderstand about the meaning. Ayuttaya was detroyed because we have betrayal inside and another reason, which involed inside country issue. In this case, it means "because of inside betrayal, so that we lost. It doesn't invole anything about China. If you don't care who was win, you can just ignore it, that all.
I don't care who won, it does not change my life one bit. However, it worries me that Thais talk like this is 'Ayuttaya 2', people are dead and temples destroyed.
If you really believe that zou is the clean winner, you just prove it to the one who argue, that all. A lot of Thais here appriciate to do that. And, if you do that since the first place, I might not come to talk to you like this. There is no point to be racism, even I live in Australia. I have many Chinese friend but no one argue about that. These is no conflict, we are still talked as we are.
Thailand has never been a colony. Is it bad if we pround? But I have never learnt that China is backward, where did you get that information? We even learnt that China is one of the main country of our import and export. They wrote that messages because they think that our boxer was cheat. It is not they were manipulted or brainwashed, but they saw it fom their own eye. In the past even our legendary boxer was defeaed but no one complained, do you think why this time many peple complain that ?
I don't think that we depend on China. Yes, we have economic relation but not that mean we relate to China. Moreover when you keep insisting that Thai is China. I feel it really strange. Yes we are descendant. But if you look to many country like Australia or USA. their are so many Chinese descendant there as well. Do you want to say that Australian and American are Chinese as well? Or even the soliers that were sent to Japan by Qin Huang Di. So you mean Japaneses are Chinese ?
Because I saw only someone said "China cheated" but no one said they hate Chinese. Their meaning is about boxing but what you do, is draugh it to Racism or discrimination issue. I think you come too far from your point. Why don't you just disscuss about how they fighted, although I don't want to discuss about that to you but I believe that everyone here prefer to do. Just show them the prove that there was no cheating, if you believe that way
Yeah, Thai likes boxing but I will not discuss about cheat or not with you. It is a controversial topic, we can talked for a whole day. However, I still have not got your point of insisting how big you are, and what is the meaning of "these problems" ?
It's not a case of good and bad, it is Thai nationalism. I know what is in Thai textbooks, Thailand has never been a colony, we are proud to be Thai, Burmese are evil, Muslims to the south are not the same, China is backward……
When the Olympics were on, these Olympic heroes were on TV, even their parents were shown on TV. The scene was set, this is a conquest. This is time to show Thailand is world class. In the end, this happens and thousands of Thais wrote hate messages on the net.
I think Thai nationalism created all these problems. Why should the average person care about some boxing match? Do Thais like boxing? I doubt it. What is the whole point of Thais screaming and shouting that they hate Chinese? When it is clear Thailand depends on China.
China cheat……..
Actually, I don't want to criticize China because I love there, part of my blood is Chinese but there is no perfect country. There are bad things in China as well. Do you want me to list it? Or do you want to share my story? I have a lot of both good and bad stories of China, which one do you want to hear? Before insult someone, at least please looking back to yourself first.
It deserves to know what is your point. What is your purpose? Because from my experience in China for almost 8 months, everything that you said like sex or socipath, it has happened in China as well. But I have never thought that China is a bad country. It had a good time there. Why don't you said that bad things in China like you said to the other country.